Confused about the T-shirt (was: I won't start a flame war)
|From:||Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>|
|Date:||Friday, November 12, 1999, 6:00|
At 6:01 pm -0500 10/11/99, Nik Taylor wrote:
>Raymond Brown wrote:
>> To omit it from a list of conlangs is IMHO simply ignoring history and
>> being petty minded.
>Except that this T-shirt was supposed to be a product of the list, a
>collection of translations in the conlangs of the list members.
Fair enough - if that is the case.
I know I wasn't here at the start of the T-shirt business, but I'd
understood that it was, e.g. going to include Quenya as an example of a
'Tolklang'; that someone was producing the Solresol version on the musical
stave etc etc. Neither Tolkien nor Sudre were members of this list.
My intention was - and still is - to support what seems to me Don's
eminently sensible suggestion re auxlangs (except I added Solresol).
If I've misunderstood, then I apologize.
But at 6:59 pm +0000 10/11/99, Fabian wrote:
>Like it or not, Esperanto shall be present. I don't care what you think on
>that point. Otherwise...
>-hey fred, cool T-shirt! Whats it about?
>-its about artificial languages...
>-so wheres that famous one, whats it called, Esperanto?
>See? Esperanto is one or the more famous conlangs around.
Now I'm REALLY confused.
Isn't Fabian the one actually responsible for this T-shirt?
Or have I misunderstood that also!
What Fabian says above is no more & no less what I said. I have no
interest whatever in auxlang-politics; but, like Fabian (it seems), I think
the " - well, actually.... " bit will make conlangers sound pretty pathetic.
>I am not entertaining such arguments on which auxlangs may be included.
>However, I did invite people to send me descriptions of these
>romance-aux-langs so that I could make a better judgement about which ones
>might be excluded if necessary. So far, no one has sent such a description
>in a readable format.
Come on, Jay. Let Fabian know about yours. If a romance-aux-lang is to be
included, let's have one of our list member's!
Slightly confused - and really not wanting any flame-war.
A mind which thinks at its own expense
will always interfere with language.
[J.G. Hamann 1760]