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Re: Figure This Out

From:Jeffrey Jones <jsjonesmiami@...>
Date:Thursday, April 13, 2006, 22:51
On Thu, 13 Apr 2006 10:36:26 -0400, Rob Haden <magwich78@...> wrote:

>On Wed, 12 Apr 2006 13:28:49 -0700, Jeff Jones <jsjonesmiami@...>
wrote:
> >>1. fokan Hwan mamakwe >> Juan saw his mother. > >_kan_: see >_mama_: mother >_fo-_: past tense prefix >_-kwe_: possessive suffix
OK
>>2. kanko pasuna tuperu >> I see the dog sleeping. > >_-ko_: 1sg transitive subject yes >_pa-_: stative prefix no >_tu-_: singulative prefix no >_peru_: dog yes >_suna_: sleep yes
Your analysis of the prefixes is interesting.
>>3. kopisuna >> I'll sleep (sometime). > >_ko-_: 1sg intransitive subject >_pi-_: future-tense prefix
OK
>>4. etxa Hwan pakankwe tuperu >> Juan wants to see the dog. > >_etxa_: want
OK
>Note: I suggest that _pakankwe_ translates to _his state of seeing_. That >is, _etxa Hwan pakankwe tuperu_ literally means "Juan wants his (own) state >of seeing the dog".
That would resolve the two uses of |-kwe|
>>5. Hwan tuadetxa pakankwe tuperu >> It's Juan that wants to see the dog. > >_ad-_: locative/existential marker, i.e. it serves to point out that the >thing in question exists and/or where it is; _tuadetxa_ would mean more >literally "here (is) the one (who) wants".
I find this very instructive. I'll try to explain what this prefix is supposed to be at a later time.
>>6. appikantotz Hwan >> Juan will see us here. > >_ap-_: _ad-_ above, with assimilation to a following stop
you're right that |ap-| and |ad-| are the same.
>_-totz_: either denotes 1pl object in its entirety, or can be broken up > into two suffixes, _-to_ (unknown) and _-tz_ (1pl object)
the latter
>>7. tzifosuna >> We slept. > >_tzi-_: 1pl intransitive subject
yes
>>8. fokantzi mama Huan >> We saw Juan's mother. > >_-tzi_: 1pl transitive subject
yes
> >- Rob >=========================================================================