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Re: Conlanging and Natlangs

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Thursday, July 27, 2000, 1:04
AcadonBot wrote:
> Some English speakers use the [x] for "loch." Many do > not.
Right, because Old English used [x] (as an allophone of /h/, IIRC), but by now, many dialects have lost that sound, spontaneously, no one said "We should drop all [x]'s"!
> Some have no [Z]
Are you sure? What about words like "Asia", even from people who say /bejdZ/ I hear /ejZ@/
> But if human consciousness is natural, why can't it be > one of the "elements" involved.
It can, but conscious change tends to be VERY minor, a few things like the way that many (but by no means all) dialects have lost "double negatives" due to education.
> Did Shakespere have no effect on spoken English?
Of course he did, but that doesn't mean that Shakespeare "invented" or "constructed" English, he merely made a few minor changes (mostly, if not entirely, in vocabulary and a few idioms) to an already existing language.
> > >Hebrew came back from the dead -- reorganized by > > >planners.
Actually, Hebrew was never completely dead. It was used by Jews throughout Europe, especially to communicate with Jewish communities in other nations. -- "Life is a harder state to achieve than death" - Kai ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTailor