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Re: Triggeriness ...

From:Javier BF <uaxuctum@...>
Date:Friday, December 12, 2003, 8:00
> Should I interpret that that Tagalog indeed _does_ work that way (which
would
> bury Christophe's position it can't be classified as acc/erg/etc), or
that
> there's other languages that does it? In that case, is there any name
for this
> structure?
English assigns, by default, the role 'agent' to its main core case, the nominative, and the role 'patient' to its secondary core case, the accusative, and that's what the label "accusative language" refers to. But note that I said "by default", because when in English the nominative is combined with a passive voice in the verb, its role is then changed into 'patient', so the semantics of English nominative case is dependent on verbal voice. Basque, for its part, assigns by default the role 'patient' to its main core case, the absolutive, and the role 'agent' to a secondary core case, the ergative, and that's what the label "ergative language" refers to. Having no alternation of voices, the semantics of Basque cases are not dependent on this aspect of the verb with which they are associated. Then, Tagalog is not an accusative nor and ergative language, because it has only one core case (the 'subject' or 'trigger' or however you like to name it) and this case has none of the roles assigned to it by default, being its semantics entirely determined by and dependent on verbal voice. Is there a name for this structure? Well, I think that's what the label "trigger language" refers to. Cheers, Javier

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