Re: OT: "Science is interesting; if you don't agree, you can fuck off."

From: andrew <hobbit@...>

> We can always treat the title as a translation exercise :)
I might well do that.

> In
> Brithenig:
> Lla yscient es interessant, s'w ngongwenith rhen, gw phodeth ffudergw
> Now I will have to research to confirm if Brithenig does treat 'fuck
> off' as a reflexive.  It seems to be normal in Romance languages for
> turning transitive verbs into intransitives.
I see what you're saying, but isn't it that reflexives are filling a grammatical
slot required by verbs that are obligatorily transitive? English is more
flexible in this regard. so I can only think of one example at the moment:

At least in my idiolect, you can't say: *"I'm wearing." *Some*thing must go in
direct object position. "I'm wearing Vera Wang."; "I'm wearing a tie."; "I'm
wearing it."

So, while "I'm shaving." is acceptable English, "je rase" is not; you must shave
*some*thing. So it's "myself"; "I shave myself." I don't think it renders
"raser" intransitive; if anything it makes it defiantly transitive but
requiring a D.O.

Don't Romance reflexives work kinda sorta like Ancient Greek Middle Voice? Since "I
am worn" is odd unless you're being treated as a miniskirt?

Kou