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Re: The Unknown God (was: Conciliatory moves...)

From:FFlores <fflores@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 3, 2000, 0:28
John Cowan <jcowan@...> wrote:

>Well, I suppose I will add myself to the list. I am an agnostic, as >I have said before. I adopt Larry Niven's definition: "One who does not know >whether or not there is a God, and does not believe you do either."
It's a good one, if maybe a bit cynical (i. e. something you know is true, in a broad sense, but which many people will endlessly argue with you about, with self- and cross-referenced arguments -- which they could avoid by simply stating "I believe differently"). I'm an agnostic too. I was raised Catholic, though for the best part of my life neither my family nor I were really involved. Even then I had some doubts; when my family turned decidedly to religion, I saw many things in depth, and decided I could not name myself a true Christian of any kind, as most people I know do, if asked. At some point during the last two or three years I decided I didn't want to adhere to any closed set of beliefs unless I truly believed in all of them, which hasn't happened to me since. This probably sounded like an excuse, I know; I really don't know what could have happened if my life had been different, though I'm sure some questionings would have arised, that nothing but faith could have replied to. I respect those who have faith, but I can't restrain myself to have faith only in things decreed by humans with unknown intentions in the far past, or any other circumstances. I believe what I see, that there's an ordered universe around me, that nothing and no-one within it may have conceived or created, and that I can't understand, but fills me with marvel and a sense you can maybe call a kind of faith: the (unjustifiable) sense that everything falls into place at due time, and that each particle of dust has a meaning. I'm not sure whether it is inside it (inside everything), or comes from outside, or co-is (is together) with it. If It decided to talk to me some time (which I believe It can, given all the above), I guess I'd be glad. But it will surely be an uncommunicable experience. Which is why I can't believe people who said they have experienced it, at least not always. When I do (since I'm not a reasoning machine) it makes me glad too -- because It managed to make me believe. Unfortunately, that doesn't happen a lot. --Pablo Flores "... When all men on earth think, day and night, about the Zahir, which one will be a dream and which one a reality?" Jorge Luis Borges, _The Zahir_