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Re: The World Atlas of Language Structures

From:Eugene Oh <un.doing@...>
Date:Saturday, April 26, 2008, 4:41
I'd say the voiced stops have changed to such an extent that they have now
become approximants/fricatives and the plosive forms are now the allophones.
Particularly in Castilian.
Correct me if I'm wrong, since I'm no Spanish speaker, but I thought
nowadays the stops occur only in clusters? I think what the site meant would
be that the voicing contrast in stops has evolved into a litany of other
sounds and that the "best", or easiest, or whatever, way to classify them
would be to throw them into a "fricative" category. Perhaps.

Eugene

On Sat, Apr 26, 2008 at 11:40 AM, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote:

> Which is *almost* exactly backwards... Lessee. p/b, t/d, k/g; f but no > v, s but no z, tS but no dZ in most dialects: /Z/ but no /S/ in some. > Some dialects do have T vs D (the latter as an allophone of /d/), and > most have x vs G (/g/) > > > > On 4/25/08, Eric Christopherson <rakko@...> wrote: > > On Apr 25, 2008, at 9:52 PM, Paul Bennett wrote: > > > > > The World Atlas of Language Structures is now available for free > > > online, in a nifty Google Maps powered form. > > > > > > http://www.wals.info/ > > > > > > I cannot succinctly explain it, except to place it at least on the > > > same level as STARLING, IEIOL, indo-european.nl, and the Rosetta > > > Project on my list of awesome linguistics resources. > > > > Indeed it is cool! But it says that Spanish shows voicing contrast in > > fricatives and not plosives :/ > > > > -- > Sent from Gmail for mobile | mobile.google.com > > Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> >

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