Re: Request for help, Spanish
From: | Carlos Thompson <carlos_thompson@...> |
Date: | Wednesday, October 13, 1999, 3:01 |
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De: Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Para: Multiple recipients of list CONLANG <CONLANG@...>
Enviado: Martes 12 de Octubre de 1999 20:23
Asunto: Re: Request for help, Spanish
> FFlores wrote:
> > The {h} is there because initial {ie} and {ue} are forbidden
> > orthographically
>
> I had thought that "ye" and "hie" indicated the exact sound. So {y} an=
d
> consonantal {i} are actually different sounds?
Actually most people pronounce it the same (fricative), like in {yerro} (=
I
comit an error) and {hierro} (iron), both pronounced as [j\erro], but in
carefull speech they are different, the {i} is clearly noticed ({h} is ju=
st
orthographic). {yerba} is the orthography used for represent the
_mispronunciation_ of {hierba}, as {g=FCeso} is used for the mispronuciat=
ion
of {hueso}.
If the orthography of any word would begin in {i} as semivowel, as a frie=
nd
of mine called Iohann, the _correct_ pronunciation would be /i/, realized=
as
[j] and diferent than the [j\] sound of {y}. But yet, most people will
pronounce it just as if it were written with {y} in normal speech. So it=
is
not the {h} which make {hierba} different from {yerba}.
BTW, the orthography {yerba} is accepted, an I guess prefered in some
compounds like {yerbabuena} (mint), or when refered to medicinal herbs. =
I
also read once that the correct orthography for the vulgar words based on
"huevo", meaning male reproductive organs, shoud be {g=FCevo}, {g=FCevas}=
,
{g=FCev=F3n}, etc. and pronounced acordently, while if the meaning is "eg=
g"
should be {huevo}, {huevas}, and pronounced with no /g/.