Re: [DISC] Is Language Creation Art?
| From: | J Y S Czhang <czhang23@...> |
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| Date: | Friday, March 22, 2002, 21:20 |
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In a message dated 3/21/02 08.09.14 AM, Jan (ijzeren_jan@YAHOO.CO.UK) writes:
>On the other hand, take a composer like Rossini. This
>guy had two loves in his life: cooking and eating. As
>a composer, he was a good craftsman and widely
>acclaimed as an artist. But as soon as he had made
>enough money to devote himself completely to cooking
>and eating, he quit composing.
Interestin'... Brings to my mind that the late music creator * John Cage
is more well-known - in certain countries, i.e. Italy - for his expertise on
mushrooms and cuisine. And in some other places (ferinstance IIRC Germany),
Cage is more recognized for his poetry and writing (esp'ly on Zen and
art/creativity) than his music. Here in America, he is relegated to the
"avant garde" post-WW2 music world (& is somewhat controversial still, some
saying he was just a charlatan and a con-artist).
In Japan - to some extent, Cage is known for all the "better"
above-mentioned aspects, including - of course - his music.
* I wouldn't call him a "composer" since composing is an act of
deliberated technical expression via creativity (emotive &/or logical)
involving the artist's Ego.
Influenced by certain mystical/philosophical Hindu, Taoist and Zen ideas
and concepts, Cage was after Egolessness in his "Chance" music:
"Art is the imitation of Nature in her manner of operation."
~ John Cage quoting Sri Ananda Coomaraswamy quoting St. Thomas Aquinas
just settin' things up to let things just happen...
goin' with the Flow of things...
seein'/hearin' just where-ever they go... ;)
BTW I love all the evocative toy piano pieces he created a lot and I
really like the odd gamelan-like-ness of his "prepared piano" pieces...
Hanuman Zhang {HANoomaan JAHng}=> Xanumaan Dja:xng /'hanuma~n dZa'hN/
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~§~
_LILA_ <from Sanskrit> = "Divine Play" - the 'joyous exercise of spontaneity
involved in the art of creation' (Sarvepalli Radhakrishnan)...the play of
creation, destruction, & re-creation, the folding & unfolding of the cosmos...
both the delight & enjoyment of this moment, & the play of [the] God[head]
("the universe is what happens when God wants to play").
Un COUP De DéS ... JAMAIS ... N'ABOLIRA ... Le HASARD
A THROW Of the DiCe ... NEVER ... WILL ELIMINATE ... CHANCE
~~~ Stéphane Mallarmé
"Logic, organization, government should all be forgotten inasmuch as they
begin themselves by making us forget the essential. ... We should learn to
live without working. That would mean we would have to live creatively."~~~
John Cage
"I Tell You: One must still have CHAOS in one to give birth to a dancing
star!" ~~~ Nietzsche