Re: racist vs racialist?

On Tuesday 10 December 2002 2:26 pm, Tristan wrote:
> Florian Rivoal wrote:
> >I, being "white" (caucasian or whatever you want to call it)
>
> Is there a better term than 'White' to describe us erm... White people?
> We aren't very white (you'd be better off calling me red (even during
> Winter II; it's not sunburn :P)), and 'White', at least in English, has
> (weak) connotations of purity and the like. Caucasian implies that they
> come from Caucasia, but they come from all over Europe. European implies
> that we're from Europe, but I would be a foreigner wherever you put me
> in Europe; my culture &c. belong in Australia.
>
> 'White' seems to me to be the best of a bad bunch---is there a better term?
Pinkish light brown?

> >, consider all races (if such distinction is really meaningfull) equal.
> > exept that i think asian girls are the most beautyful. So in a certain
> > sense, since everything else is equal, granting them one more quality, I
> > somehow consider asian people "superior" to others, including to my own
> > "kind". ;) Would anyone call this racism?
>
> Yes, but they're fools who seek to find fault in everyone. (Some of this
> sort of people called me 'European' and they never heard the end of it.
> Not that I have anything against Europeans---you generally seem to be
> nice people (excluding those who aren't of course)---I just don't like
> people calling me something I'm not.) There is nothing wrong with
> preferring Asian chicks (or, more specifically, East Asian chicks, and,
> if you're anything like me, the ones from China/Japan/Korea-type area of
> Vietnam and other more southerly areas). It's not exactly something you
> can help. Of course, if you gave a job to an Asian chick on the ground
> that she was Asian (rather than that she was the best skilled), then it
> becomes racial discrimination (and perhaps sexual harrassment, but we'll
> leave that to the courts to decide, should you choose to act
> inappropriately).
>
> > or is there an other word?
>
> I think the phrase 'sexual preference' is probably about as close as
> you'll get.
>
> >But since i am not very found of black girls, again everything else than
> > apperance being equal, i could say i think black people are not as good
> > as the other. And since this time, i place someone under the other, it is
> > more easy to call it racism. But personnaly, i think it is not more
> > racist that, for example, prefering blondes to black-haired, and feeling
> > red-haired are not so great, because this only relies on an esthetic
> > jugement, and does not imply anything else.
>
> Exactly.
>

I'd like to third that.