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From:Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...>
Date:Wednesday, November 3, 2004, 20:00
On Wed, Nov 03, 2004 at 08:33:39PM +0100, Philip Newton wrote:
> On Wed, 3 Nov 2004 14:02:41 -0500, Mark J. Reed <markjreed@...> wrote: > > now I have to go look up which vowel [7] is. :) > > So did I. For those who haven't: it's rams-horn (open-mid back > unrounded vowel; unrounded variant of [o]). > > Which surprised me a little since AFAIK in normal Japanese, there's > unrounded [M] but rounded [o], but the pronunciation of such > specialised phrases may take a variant pronunciation.
I've read descriptions of Japanese that varied on the roundedness of the back vowels. Some give [M] and [o], while others give [M] and [7]. Of course, many actually give [u] and [o], but I write those off as simplifications for benefit of the linguistically unsophisticated. :) -Marcos