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Re: THEORY: transitivity

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 26, 1999, 16:54
Pasasgen/Mensa wrote:
> (And possibly also distinguish between verbs that > don't have an agent, eg. "I sleep" and verbs that do.)
Isn't that the same as the intransitive/transitive distinction? Unless you're using "agent" in a different way than I am, an agent only exists in transitive sentences.
> The question is if transitive verbs should be conjugated > as intransitive if they don't have an object.
I'd say no. You could, perhaps, use affixes for passive and antipassive, tho. In other words, take your example "I eat food". The passive form would be "food is eaten", the anti-passive, "I eat". Perhaps those would be conjugated as intransitive verbs, but an affix should be used to indicate what is missing.
> Do you have any comments?
Interesting idea. In my Eastern, the old antipassive particle, _su_ has evolved into a transitive marker _s(u)_ (/s(@)/), used whether or not the object is present. Eastern has evolved from ergative to accusative. That's the closest I have now, but an earlier conlang of mine, Tqa-Cize^ (/tTa tSi'zE/) had particles to indicate transitive and ditransitive, intransitive and stative (what you call zero-transitive) were indicated by no such particle being present. -- "It's bad manners to talk about ropes in the house of a man whose father was hanged." - Irish proverb http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/X-Files http://members.tripod.com/~Nik_Taylor/Books.html ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-name: NikTailor