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Re: Umlaut (was: More questions)

From:Benct Philip Jonsson <bpj@...>
Date:Thursday, November 27, 2003, 12:55
To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...>
Subject: Re: Umlaut (was: More questions)
Various replies to thread.  Bottom up again I'm afraid!

At 23:04 26.11.2003, Andreas Johansson wrote:

>Doesn't Icelandic make something patently weird along the lines /a/>/2/? Seem >to recall something about _altar_ being _altörum_ or _ölturum_ in some >inflected form.
It is actually /a/ > /&\/, and _ölturum_ is indeed dat.pl. The process is the reflex of u-umlaut, after the fronting of *a and *Q. It occurs regularly before a preserved following _u_ ([Y] or [2]), and sometimes where an *u ending has been lost, notably in the nom.sg. of feminine (e.g. _hönd_ 'hand') and in the nom./acc.pl of neuter (e.g. _lönd_ 'lands') nouns and adjectives. A stressed _a_ becomes _ö_ and an unstressed _a_ gets fully assimilated to _u_. Some foreign proper names and words violate the latter rule, e.g. _Agatha_, which becomes _Ögöthu_ in olique cases. ---------- To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...> Subject: Re: Umlaut (was: More questions) At 22:26 26.11.2003, Andreas Johansson wrote:
> > > > > On Tuesday, November 25, 2003, at 09:06 PM, Amanda Babcock wrote: > ...snip... > > the latter. However, as I think about it, I think a-umlaut is a good > > idea. Makes matters neatly symmetrical and more complex. > >My conlang Tersnuvu - I guess it must be characterized as effectively >abandoned for know; it never got much past phonology and nominal morphology >anyway - managed, using only i-umlaut and reduction of diphthongs in certain >positions, to expand it's vocalic inventory from /i a u ai au/ to /i y e a o u >ei ey ai au/. Should I start seriously working on it again, I guess I ought to >introduce a- and u-umlaut too, wrecking some REAL havoc.
AFMOC Sohlob it went through three stages: first umlaut, then merger of some of the results of umlaut, then high/low vowel harmony: a-uml i-uml u-uml a a & Q i e i i/ u o y u Then /e/ merged with /i\/ (that hence is written _e_ in the romanization), /y/ merged with /i/ and /o/ merged with /Q/, giving the following vowel system: i _e_ u _ae_ a _o_ Sometime during the nine-vowel phase vowel-height harmony nocks on the door requiring all vowels of a word to be the same height, so that vowels in non-initial syllables get raised/lowered as appropriate. Initially _e_ 'remembers' its mixed origin, so that its lowered counterpart is sometimes _a_ and sometimes _ae_, while _o_ sometimes gets raised to _u_ and sometimes to _e_. This in turn is subject to a lot of later analogy and confusion, which makes for an interesting morphology, especially as final vowels are lost, so that what originally was the theme-vowel of the stem gets reintepreted as part of the ending, with several allomorphs due to vowel changes. Then there is the Kitilib dialect where _e_ merged with _i_ (_kitilib_ would properly be _ketjeleb_ in Classical Sohlob, although the mixed form _kitileb_ or even _kidileb_ is actually used), and the Heleb dialect where VhV, VyV, VwV and VqV (_q_ = /G/) sequences were contracted into long vowels, some of which are front rounded, so that short vowels in the affected words get subject to front-roundness harmony as well. There is also the _Lindjeb_ dialect where the mergers were different: & > e, i\ > y, Q > o and harmony never took place. Etymological exercise: Try to figure out the etymology of _kitilib_, given that _kedjeb_ means 'ancient language', and _heleb_ means 'city language'. ---------- To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...> Subject: Re: Umlaut (was: More questions) At 22:08 26.11.2003, Paul Bennett wrote:
>My still unnamed project (provisionally WC8, de facto, it seems) has vowel >mutation that works like umlaut, and which may have historically been >umlaut (or more properly vowel harmony followed by umlaut).
Wow, that's the opposite sequence compared to Sohlob! :) ---------- To: Constructed Languages List <CONLANG@...> Subject: Re: Umlaut (was: More questions) At 22:02 26.11.2003, John Cowan wrote:
> > The tendency, if there is a shifting, seems to be towards one of the > > apexes of the 'vocalic triangle' as, I think, John's email implies. > >At first I thought so too. But the u-umlaut process is rounding, not >backing: it mutates /i/ > /y/ and /e/ > /2/. Presumably it could even >transform /A/ > /Q/.
Historically it did all that in Germanic: *triwwaz > *triggwaz > ON tryggr alu > ON öl (yes, _alu_ is attested in inscriptions!) I can't recall any e > ø example off the top of my head, but they exist. /BP 8^) -- B.Philip Jonsson mailto:melrochX@melroch.se (delete X) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~__ A h-ammen ledin i phith! \ \ __ ____ ____ _____________ ____ __ __ __ / / \ \/___ \\__ \ /___ _____/\ \\__ \\ \ \ \\ \ / / / / / / / \ / /Melroch\ \_/ // / / // / / / / /___/ /_ / /\ \ / /'Aestan ~\_ // /__/ // /__/ / /_________//_/ \_\/ /Eowine __ / / \___/\_\\___/\_\ Gwaedhvenn Angeliniel\ \______/ /a/ /_h-adar Merthol naun ~~~~~~~~~Kuinondil~~~\________/~~\__/~~~Noolendur~~~~~~ || Lenda lenda pellalenda pellatellenda kuivie aiya! || "A coincidence, as we say in Middle-Earth" (JRR Tolkien)