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CHAT: Nonstandard usage (was Natural language change (was Re:Charlie and I))

From:Thomas R. Wier <artabanos@...>
Date:Tuesday, September 21, 1999, 7:29
Eric Christopherson wrote:

> But then she prefers "sneaked" to "snuck" ;O)
Really. My mother always strikes me as speaking somehow more dialectally than I do. For her, the principle parts of "wake" are "wake, waked, waked", while I always say "wake, woke, woken". She also has funny vowels [ :) ] before /r/: for her, <cord> is /kOrd/, not /kord/, as it is for me.
> Re: preterit vs. perfect, I think "did you do your homework" sounds > perfectly appropriate, and "have you done your homework" is ok too (but it > sounds a bit formal).
But the question was not about "Did you do your homework?"; that is also perfectly normal for me to say. What I was getting at was that use of "yet" to take on the full load of the perfectivity: I find it odd when someone says "Did you do your homework *yet*?"
> However, it really annoys me to hear people use the > perfect tense where one would usually use the past tense, e.g. there was a > commercial where a woman said something like "Tony's been my dentist since > I've been a child." AARGH!! :)
Well, that's wrong because she's no longer a child, but the verb form seems to imply that she could still be (the present perfect talks about past events but only in how they affect the present -- hence "I've been a child" implies that childishness of some kind is still a relevant characteristic at the present time). This example is exactly parallel to mine above. ======================================================= Tom Wier <artabanos@...> ICQ#: 4315704 AIM: Deuterotom Website: <> "Cogito ergo sum, sed credo ergo ero." Denn wo Begriffe fehlen, Da stellt ein Wort zur rechten Zeit sich ein. -- Mephistopheles, in Goethe's _Faust_ ========================================================