Re: Phaleran Update: Language game; Alienable and inalienablepossession
|From:||Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>|
|Date:||Monday, May 20, 2002, 2:13|
Quoting Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>:
> "Thomas R. Wier" wrote:
> > (4) eluo kwâl
> > city.ABS ward-3Sg
> > 'the city's ward'
> > (6) hwânto titlîna
> > 1Sg.INST PL.bear.ABS
> > 'my blackbears'
> So, the verb would agree with the possessor in inalienable constructs,
> but the possessed in alienable ones?
No. I should have glossed (4) better as (10):
(10) eluo kwâl
'the city's ward'
Possession is only in partial complementary distribution with
case. "ward" in this example happens to be in the absolutive
case, which is almost always a zero-morph. If the noun surfaces
with an oblique case, the possessive marker goes either before or
after depending on dialect:
(11) Puna aiandri eluo kwâluo umparinnen
boys that-INV-FOR city ward.3Sg.DAT reside.INTR.3PlPfRe.SEN
"I'm given to understand that the boys lived in that ward
of the city."
So, when the possessed noun takes on a subjective case, either
ergative or absolutive, it will agree with that noun:
(12) Kwiltrânâs balyei Phrâstyumenento
dissent.AG.PL.BEN pogrom.ABS Council-of-20.INST
'A pogrom of dissidents was ordered by the Coucil of Twenty.'
(Some examples come from Phaleran history; sometimes the
benefactive case can be used for possession if someone is
greatly affected by the "possession".)
(13) Dessâ eultânal eluowo xoltiswannen.
king.ABS slave.PL.3Sg city.DAT transport.TR.3Pl
"The king's slaves were transported to the city."
Note that even though in both (12) and (13) the two NPs differ
in number, it is always the possessed noun that wins out.
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