Re: Mutable R's

Quoting Joe Fatula <fatula3@...>:

> From: "Andreas Johansson" <andjo@...>
> Subject: Re: Mutable R's
>
>
> > Hm, my [Z]'s are made with the tip of the tongue (that's the apex,
> right?), so
> > it'd still not _articulatorily_ be simultaneous [r] and (what I think
> of
> as)
> > [Z].
> >
> > I can, in isolation, easily enough produce an alveolar trill with a
> > simultaneous fricative made with the upperside of the tongue; I
> can't
> believe
> > it be particularly hard to learn to do it in actual speech with some
> training.
> > So if it's the thing, the difficulty of Czech r-caret does indeed seem
> to
> be
> > highly exagerated. I mean, it's alot simpler than those dastardly
> glottal
> > stops!
>
> If you were from a language where glottal stops are phonemic (as I
> am),
> you'd have no problem with them!
Obviously. And I very much doubt r-caret would be much trouble were I Czech.

                                                              Andreas