Re: Phonological equivalent of "The quick brown fox..."

Daniel Prohaska wrote:
[snip]
> You will hear both pronunciations in Britain /"g&rIdZ/ as well as
> /g@"rA:Z/. Note that English English /g@"rA:Z/ needs /A:/ with a length
> marker
Does it? If the transcription were phonetic (between square brackets),
I'd agree. But is /:/ _phonemic_/? What Brit English words contrast /A/
and /A:/?

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Daniel Prohaska wrote:
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 >
 > I forgot, there's also /"g&rA:Z/ in EE.

I forgot that too. But again I would not include /:/ in a phonemic
transcription. I'm not sure that it's really correct in a phonetic
transcription in this case either; from what I hear, the /A/ in /g@"rAZ/
is longer than that in /"g&rAZ/ - but that's determined by stress. But
British English does exhibit very considerable variation.

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