Forming questions. (In ASCII even!)
From: | taliesin the storyteller <taliesin@...> |
Date: | Monday, January 7, 2002, 23:52 |
Warning: this is a very AFMCLy post, but I hope it at least a little
newbie-friendly, 7-bit computing friendly and perhaps even interesting.
I've FINALLY managed to at least glimpse how questions are formed in
Taruven, so here's a little something to show it all off.
If this had been in 8 bits, U, Y, I and E would have been the
corresponding lowercase letters, umlauted. All {i}s after
{a} or {e} would have had a grave accent, marking a falling
diphthong. The one exception is what is here written {te.iD},
where now a dot marks hiatus. The {A} stands in for a with
circumflex, that is: it is marked for length. {D} is instead
of edh.
Transliteration/orthography...
J: Yysa,i
Y: Y,ehan tcaia; sUkai
J: Ibren iru saies
Y: sul brenru saies yharra seh
J: s'Etcahkai; vacave fammra setanandulein
Y: keigah
Y: te.iD setanandu s'uleine;
Y: mhAr; taxalen
Rough translation...
Jehan: Ysaji!
Ysaji: Jehan, proceed. What is it?
Jehan: It's the car, it's in the river.
Ysaji: Given that the car is in the river, how did it get there?
Jehan: I didn't see it myself. Setanandu said it fell from the pass.
Ysaji: Indeedy...
Ysaji: I'll speak with Setanandu.
Ysaji: Wonderful... Dismissed.
Interlinear...
orthography-line
pronounciation-line (strict XSAMPA, but probably not perfect)
morpheme-line
translation-line
PS! _O (more rounded) is not _0 (voiceless)
Yysa,i
[jy_O"sAji]
Y- ysa,i
Vocative- Ysaji
Y,ehan tcaia; sUkai
[y_O"jehAn "tSAi.A sA_X"kAi]
Y- ,ehan tcaia sUkai
Vocative- Jehan 'I see you' Question.Event
Ibren iru saies
["ibren "ir} "sAi.es]
I- bren i -ru sai -es
Focus- car it -Be_located river -Location
sul brenru saies yharra seh
[s}l "brenr} "sAi.es y_O"hAr:a seh]
sul bren -ru sai -es y- harra seh
Question car -Be_located river -Location Same_Subject- Manner.Past huh
s'Etcahkai
[se"tSAkAi]
sA -el E- tcah kai
I -Experiencer Not- see Event
vacave fammra setanandulein
["vASAve "xpAirA setA"nAndulein]
vaca -ve famm -ra setanandu -lein
pass -from fall -Past Setanandu -Reported_speech
keigah
[keigAh]
keigah
Really (sarcasm, feigned surprise/wonder)
te.iD setanandu s'uleine
["te.iD setA"nAndulein s}leine]
te -iD setanandu sA -el uleine
with -Benefactive Setanandu I -Experiencer sing
mhAr taxalen
[m_tA_t:::r_t tA"xAlen]
mhAr taxalen
damn 'stop no talk'
What's new
{s'}
clitic-version of sAel, first person singular pronoun in
experiencer-case. All other verbs but experiencer-verbs have
the f.p.s.p built-in, with the exp-verbs one must be explicit.
sul, sUkai, yharra
Question-verbs. The underlying morph in the two first is {sul},
marking a question. How/if the vowel is pronounced when {sul} is
combined with the morphs for MANNER, TIME, PLACE etc. depends on
dialect. The morph after {sul-} can be thought of as the verb
proper. {yharra} starts the sub-question of a double-question.
sul... y[Question-verb]
Double-question formation.
Question(1) IF X is_true/exists, THEN Question(2) about X. X is
implicit in question 2.
tcaia, taxalen
Greeting and farewell. Ysaji is being *very* formal and redundant
here. {tcaia} is quite unneccessary, after all (s)he explicitly
recognizes Jehan's existence by using the vocative. {taxalen}
stands in for the usual short nod (reserved for equals/respected
or loved ones) and/or grunt/growl (for anything else). This, and
the pronounciation of sUkai, points to Ysaji's origins: xalde.a
or possibly xAri.a
the names
They are all clearly names. Ysaji for starting with {y} or {i},
(it being {y} pointing towards xAri.a again,) Jehan for being of
the form CVCVC (ending with an n, even), and Setanandu for having
four syllables and ending with -ndu.
Ask away!
t.
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