Re: To Christophe (Uusisuom and Esperanto)

On Tue, 1 May 2001, SuomenkieliMaa wrote:

> --- Andreas Johansson <and_yo@...> wrote:
> > The Other Matt wrote:
> > >
> > to produce. To take me for an example, I'd pronounce
> > the very word
> > 'Uusisuom' wrongly half the time, with tense [u]s.
I can only get it out when I'm concentrating; to my admittedly weird ear
"Uusisuom" is a pretty ugly word (but I don't consider myself part of the
target audience).  It renders in my head as "the Uu language."

> Btw, speaking of notations, would you or anyone here
> (eg, Yoon Ha!) be kind enough to send a "crash course"
> of proper sound notating in linguistic terms?  I see
Are you familiar with the IPA (international phonetic alphabet)?  A site
(I have the French link, since it doesn't bother me, but there's an
easily-accessible English version) I've found helpful with most of the
major IPA sounds is:

UNIL/Linguistique: Cours de phone'tique:
http://www.unil.ch/ling/phon/index.html

There are sound files that hopefully whatever computer setup you have
will be able to handle.

The most popular ASCII representations of IPA here seem to be SAMPA and
Kirschenbaum (I use the latter mainly because I'm more used to it, but I
think SAMPA wins in popularity and people have said that it does a better
job with the less common sounds):
http://www.cs.brown.edu/~dpb/ascii-ipa.html

You should probably get some of the real linguists/more linguistically
experienced people to help you out with specific questions.  I am
unfortunately a novice at this.

> the letters, some capitalized, some small, but haven't
> got a good grasp on the difference.  Ironically, I
> have studied over 10 languages in my young life - but
> my way to learn them is not really via the formal
> linguistical notations.  Anyhow, would appreciate your
> advice/help!
> Matt
> (I'm 25, probably younger than the other Matt/s, so
> shall we all call me "Young Matt" - if I may be so
> vain?)  ;-p
Hey, I'm 22, even more of a pipsqueak.  :-)  I've only gotten to study
Latin, French, German, Korean...and by default, English.  But I'm working
slowly on Japanese and Turkish, darnit.  :-)

YHL

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