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Re: Roman Syllabary

From:Oskar Gudlaugsson <hr_oskar@...>
Date:Friday, May 18, 2001, 18:43
>>The phonology of the Babm >>syllabary is too obviously made to fit to the arbitrary quirks of the
Roman
>>alphabet and its traditional values. > >{j} = [zI] and {x} = [ki] doesn't seem to me to meet even that criterion.
Well, for {x} = [ki] I might point to the Spanish name of the letter - "equís", if I remember right (?). As to {j}, I could only conclude that FO actually intended it to be [Zi] - I'm surely insulting his intelligence as a linguist, but might his native palatilization conditions (i.e. Japanese /si/ = [Si]) have clouded his mind? Just a theory.
>I'd suggest rather {c} = /ki/ or /ti/ = [tSi], [ts\i]; and having {x} = >/hi/ or /si/ = [Si], [s\i] > >The now redundant {g} can be found a job as /Ji/ (suggested by the Italian >_gni_ in _gnocchi_ :)
Yes, that's a good idea; though I wouldn't say /Ji/, merely /ni/, to be pronounced [Ji]. This would solve the problem, which I had certainly noticed, that there are too few nasal combinations. And since this is already a language of strong assimilative processes, where back vowels are associated with labials, and front vowels with palatals, I'd suggest {m} to be phonemically /nu/, pronounced [mu]. If {c} would become /ki/ or /ti/, then I'd have {z} = /si/. {x} would still be /hi/, though I see a paradox there - i.e. that /si/ and /hi/ should be distinctive in spite of the assimilative processes. I'll have to think about that.
>None of my systems, as far as I remember, contained diphthongs.
Nonetheless, I'd favor that solution; that way, {e o} are put to use, without having to have an unnecessary five-way distinction of vowels, and having to explain why the distribution of those five vowels would be so uneven.
>But a more recent attempt of mine just had: >{g} = /Ji/ >{n} = /na/ >{m} = /mu/
Essentially my conclusion, though I describe it phonemically as /ni na nu/, pronounced [Ji na mu], written {g n m}. I'm interested, actually, to know other details of Babm. Surely it was more than a phonology; what kind of language was it, in other aspects? Regards, Óskar