Re: Real Conlangs Here, Made-to-Order!

In a message dated 2003:04:27 07:03:53 PM, estel_telcontar@YAHOO.CA writes:

>--- Herman Miller ha tera roha a:
>
>> I like the definition Wendy Carlos gave on a
>> Nova program "What is Music?" a few years back.
>> Music is "organized sound". With a broad enough
>> interpretation of "organized", even some of the
>> more unusual works by John Cage could fall under
>> that definition.
>
>> Now, most of our conlangs could also be described
>> as "organized sound", so I guess that agrees perfectly
>> with Sally Caves' description of conlangers as
>> "word musicians"!
>
>I guess all languages would count as music under that
>definition: what is phonology but an organization of
>sounds?  Except sign language, of course (dance instead?),
>and any purely written language.
"I believe that phonology is superior to music. It is more variable and
its pecuniary possibilities are far greater." - Erik Satie



---
Hanuman Zhang

    "In the beginning was noise - raw sound, the seed sound, the One, _Nada
Brahma_, the Big Bang. And noise begat rhythm. And rhythm begat everything
else. And thus the Dance began. Rhythm and noise. There is terror in noise,
and in that terror there is also power." - adapted from writings by Mickey
Hart

"I have the feeling that the English word 'noise' has more negative
connotations than our German word 'Gerausch'.  We would describe the sound of
wind blowing as Gerausch, to imply that it's a beautiful and natural sound.
It's so stupid when people say that instead of making beautiful sounds, I
make noise...I like these sounds and this has nothing to do with
'anti-beauty'" - Helmut Lachenmann

"We cannot doubt that animals both love and practice music. That is evident.
But it seems their musical system differs from ours. It is another
school...We are not familiar with their didactic works. Perhaps they don't
have any."  - Erik Satie

NADA BRAHMA - Sanskrit, "sound [is the] Godhead"

LILA - Sanskrit, "divine play/sport/whimsy" - "the universe is what happens
when God wants to play" - "joyous exercise of spontaneity involved in the art
of creation"