Re: Help desiging a minimal conlang?
From: | Jeffrey Henning <jeffrey@...> |
Date: | Saturday, November 27, 1999, 2:53 |
Paul Bennett <Paul.Bennett@...> comunu:
> The langauge has to fullfill the following requirements:
>
> Higly agglutinating/compounding
> Almost entirely all-verb, plus noun-forming, case-like words
> The standard 6-pronoun layout (1st, 2nd and 3rd person singular & plural,
all
> epicene), plus a reflexive marker
> As small a lexicon as possible, roughly 20 roots, plus the case markers
> All roots are monosyllablic, with open syllables.
This is very qualitatively similar to Dublex, if different in some ways:
[x] Higly agglutinating/compounding
[ ] Almost entirely all-verb, plus noun-forming, case-like words
Instead, Dublex's roots are all noun, with verbs representations as acts
(e.g., 'comun', "communication")
[x] The standard 6-pronoun layout (1st, 2nd and 3rd person singular &
plural, all epicene), plus a reflexive marker
Dublex has all this, though the normal pronoun system doesn't mark
number. The advanced system has singular, dual, plural and unnumbered, as
well as sex-reference and honorifics/pejoratives. Because its
agglutinative, you can come up with quite unusual pronouns.
[ ] As small a lexicon as possible, roughly 20 roots, plus the case markers
The original goal was 300 roots, then 360 roots, but I finally ended up
with 400 roots.
[ ] All roots are monosyllablic, with open syllables.
All roots are {CV}CV(C)C, making it possible to analyze a compound word
at a glance into its roots.
> Anyone care to help meet the challenge of making a smallish list of
morphemes /
> lexicon entries suitable for a semi-nomadic people with some simple
farming?
> It'll probably serve as something like a trade-pidgin, within the rules as
> above.
You are welcome to use the Dublex lexicon as a starting point and begin
trimming roots from it. The Dublex lexicon is placed in the public domain
and will form the basis for a new version of LangMaker.
> Not directly related to the task, but if it helps you visualise, the
phonology
> is probably going to be:
>
> Nasals (N): m, n, q (= /N/) -- all voiced
Dublex lacks /N/.
> Stops (C): p,b; t,d; k,g;
Dublex writes /k/ as 'c'.
> Fricatives (F): f,v; s,z; c,j (= /S/, /Z/) -- all take the same voicing as
the
> adjacent Stop
Dublex has all of these, but writes /S/ as 'h' (/Z/ is 'j', as in your
system).
> Approximatants, liquids and so forth (A): y, w, h, r, l
Dublex lacks /y/, /w/ and /h/.
> Vowels (V): standard 5-vowel system; tone, stress and length are not
phonemic
Dublex matches this.
> Valid rootforms are:
In Dublex, only a subset of CC combinations are permissable in roots ending
in doubled consonants. I actually have the full list, if anyone is
interested.
Unrelated to Dublex, the langmaker2 list recently had a discussion,
initiated by me, about which words the first human language might have had,
assuming it had only a dozen words. You can find it in the archives:
http://www.onelist.com/archive/langmaker2 -- if the web page says this is
only open to members, it's easy to subscribe but request "Web Only", which
won't clutter your e-mail box but will allow you to browse the archive.
Best regards,
Jeffrey Henning
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