Re: Phonomic & Phonetic writing [was; pseudo welsh etc]

Muke Miked;
> Or English [V]/[@], where the first is usually spelled "u" (hut, > mutton..), and
> the second usualy not spelled "u"...
(NB I use ;v and ;c for this pair) but as a minimal pair between them
how about "done (finished) and dun (off-brown) both [d;vn] to dawn
[d;cn] indeed as to the english ear the two back rounded vowels usially
sound like variants of "weak o" why would anyone want to represent them
as "u" anyway?
The Minimal pair is usally given as /d;@n/ "Don" and  /d;cn/ dawn -
whuch is also a test of accent as many english acents use only one weak
"o" sound.
Barbara