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Re: Types of numerals; bases in natlangs.

From:Nik Taylor <yonjuuni@...>
Date:Saturday, January 14, 2006, 18:04
Thomas Hart Chappell wrote:
> I was inspired by words like decillion and centillion and so on to wonder > why English's and other Standard Averge European languages' systems use ten- > to-the-sixth instead of ten-to-the-tenth. If the base of the system is > ten, it would seem that the exponents in powers of the base should also be > expressed in base-ten. I wondered why there are words for thousand and > million, instead of words for hundred (10^2) and lakh (10^5)and 10^10, > whatever that is, and so on up to googol (10^100).
My guess is that 10^10 is such a high number that there's no need to make a special term for it. Western languages seem to have gone up to either 10^3 or 10^4 historically, with higher numbers being created with multiples of those. E.g., "a thousand thousand" or "a hundred myriad" for 10^6. Million was formed from the Latin _mil_ (via Italian, if I recall correctly). When larger numbers were necessary, they followed the same pattern of threes. The Chinese, on the other hand, had gone up to 10^4. Larger numbers were therefore based on fours. Actually, historically it was more complicated. According to Wikipedia, there were historically 4 different systems of values for the large numbers. One in which each subsequent number was 10^4 times higher than the previous (the modern system), one which had increments of 10^8, one which had increments of 10, and one in which each was the *square* of the previous. Thus, the values of each number in the four systems: Yi 10^8 10^8 10^5 10^8 Zhao 10^12 10^16 10^6 10^16 Jing 10^16 10^24 10^7 10^32 Gai 10^20 10^32 10^8 10^64 Zi 10^24 10^40 10^9 10^128 Rai 10^28 10^48 10^10 10^256

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