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Re: Word orders in comparative constructions

From:Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>
Date:Monday, December 8, 2008, 20:30
On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 19:09, Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...> wrote:
> 1. Does anyone know of any natlangs or conlangs with > a word order other than QMS or SMQ?
I think Klingon doesn't really have a marker at all; comparatives work like this: "The idea of something being more or greater than something else (comparative) is expressed by means of a construction which can be represented by the following formula: A Q {law'} B Q {puS} "In this formula, A and B are the two things being compared and Q is the quality which is being measured. The two Klingon words in the formula are {law'} <be many> and {puS} <be few.> Thus, it says <A's Q is many, B's Q is few> or <A has more Q than B has> or <A is Q-er than B.>" Superlatives work the same way, with {Hoch} "all, everything" in the B position. Lojban doesn't have a marker, either; comparatives and superlatives are (in my experience) typically realised as a relation including the morpheme -mau (<zmadu) "more", -me'a (<mleca) "less", or -rai (<traji) "superlative", with the comparee and the standard simply being arguments of that relation. Alternatively, using one of those three root words and adding the relation as a third argument. For example, {la djan. bramau la meris.} "John is-bigger-than Mary" or {la djan. zmadu la meris. lo ka ce'u barda} "John exceeds Mary in the property of being tall". Or, with different word order, {la djan. la meris. bramau}; {la djan. la meris. lo ka ce'u barda cu zmadu}. And with specific excess: {la djan. bramau la meris. lo centre be li pa re} / {la djan. zmadu la meris. lo ka ce'u barda ku lo centre be li pa re} "John is bigger than Mary by twelve centimetres" (lo centre be li pa re = something which is this many hundredth-metres in length: one two). Cheers, Philip -- Philip Newton <philip.newton@...>

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