Gaelic-L Controversy - Translations, Please? (really long)
| From: | Steg Belsky <draqonfayir@...> |
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| Date: | Friday, July 5, 2002, 15:32 |
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Hey there...
i was looking for the Gaelic-L archives to see what's happening over
there and what people're saying about us, but a lot of the messages are
(of course) in Gaelic, so i don't understand them. Would anyone possibly
be able to translate these messages for the rest of us? :-b
thanks!
-Stephen (Steg)
"`eidut bihoseif samo, betzeito `al eretz mitzrayim -
sfat lo' yada`ti eshma`."
~ tehillim
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 10:00:25 +0100
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From: Marion Gunn <mgunn@...>
Subject: Re: Common Gaelic (Be/arla)
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Arsa Eoin:
>Is sár-mhaith an smaoineamh Francbhéarla Gaelach a dh'oirdniú, agus
>do rinne mé blúire oibre i mbaint leis sin. Tá tuille le teacht i
gceann
>linne bige uirthi.
Go maith. Coinnigh ar aghaidh as Gaeilge, le do thoil, a Eoin, ansin, má
bhíonn toradh do chuid oibre le sonrú ar 'obair' an dreama eile sin
amach
anseo, beidh sé níos fusa méir a dhíriú ar éinne a bhainfeadh úsáid mar
sin
as liostaí HEANET (tá an duine a chuir an cheist áirithe sin as Béarla
bainte den liosta agam).
mg
>Leoga is riachtanach foclóir cineal beag agus gramadach
>anchasta, béas ar mhaith le Gaelgeoiribh duthchais sna cheanndhúntaibh
>eadarscartha Gaoluinne ina bhfoirmeachaibh eagsula go léir, béas ar
>mhaith le lucht foghluma na Gaoluinne i róinn na galldachta.
>
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Marion Gunn <mgunn@...>
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 23:35:42 EDT
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From: James Norton <JamusN@...>
Subject: Re: ConLang
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[Scríobh Marion:]
>... >Eamon Graham
In case anyone feels my reaction to Eamon Graham's msg was out of step
with
the carefully innocent tone of his, I must advise our members that that
he
belongs to a ConLang group (mostly based in the US, who cannibalize
native
languages to construct new ones, which they call their own, and which
can be
and have been used for ciphering purposes, serving political interests
far
removed from those of the natives whose cultures were raided to make
them).
I would ask our members _not_ to collaborate with members of such
groups,
and I had hoped, until now, that our groups had escaped their unwanted
attentions.:-( mg
ps. A visit to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celticonlang/messages/559
<http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Celticonlang/messages/559> will reveal a
list of namees whose questions you may wish to avoid answering. Making a
search for ConLang will show up other names engaged in the same kind of
'world games'. mg
[Séamas]
Tá tú ag éirigh beagáinín i do pharanóid, a Mharion. Níor chuala mé
féin
faoi
ConLang roimhe seo, cé gur iarr an CIA orm súil a choimeád ortsa.
Níor bhris mo dhuine riail ar bith, nar bhris tú féin sa teachtaireacht
thuas.
Le meas,
Séamas
[ag dul ar saoire le tamall]
"Ach nuair a thiocfaidh Mac an Duine, an bhfaighidh sé creideamh ar an
talamh?"
Lúcás 18:8
Date: Wed, 3 Jul 2002 22:57:18 -0500
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From: Sean and Nina Kelley <svkelley@...>
Subject: Re: ConLang
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A Shéamais, a chara
Cheap mise in diaidh bheith ag léamh a teachtaireacht go
gcuirfeadh tormán a cos féin eagla uirthi!
Dála an scéil, chuir an NSA ceist orm súil a choinneáil
uirthi.... ;-)
Seán
On 7/3/02 10:35 PM, "JamusN@aol.com" <JamusN@...> wrote :
> [Scríobh Marion:]
>> ... >Eamon Graham
> In case anyone feels my reaction to Eamon Graham's msg was out of step
with
> the carefully innocent tone of his, I must advise our members that
that he
> belongs to a ConLang group (mostly based in the US, who cannibalize
native
> languages to construct new ones....>
> [Séamas]
> Tá tú ag éirigh beagáinín i do pharanóid, a Mharion. Níor chuala mé
féin
> faoi
> ConLang roimhe seo, cé gur iarr an CIA orm súil a choimeád ortsa.
> Níor bhris mo dhuine riail ar bith, nar bhris tú féin sa
teachtaireacht
> thuas.
>
> Le meas,
> Séamas
> [ag dul ar saoire le tamall]
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 09:51:29 +0100
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From: Pól Ó Grádaigh <pol@...>
Subject: Re: Common Gaelic (Be/arla)
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D'fhéach mé ar an liosta sin agus ní thuigim aon olc a bheith sna cúrsaí
sin, tchítear dom nach bhfuil ann ach caitheamh aimsire rud beag
neamhchoitianta. Níor fhéach mé ar mhórán de na suímh idirlín a bhí i
gceist nó chonaic mé ceann faoi theangacha Tolkien agus ní raibh neart
agam air ach é a léamh go hiomlán...
Pól
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:04:20 +0100
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From: Marion Gunn <mgunn@...>
Subject: Re: ConLang
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Arsa Séamas GAELIC-L@LISTSERV.HEANET.IE:
>[Séamas]
>Tá tú ag éirigh beagáinín i do pharanóid, a Mharion...
Aithníonn ciaróg ciaróg eile, a chara.:-) Cad is dóigh leatsa, a
Shéamais -
an maith leat 800 líne SPAM as Béarla a léamh ar an liosta seo, agus a
thuilleadh mar é?
mg
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Marion Gunn <mgunn@...>
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 12:28:15 +0100
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From: Marion Gunn <mgunn@...>
Subject: Re: Common Gaelic (Be/arla)
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Arsa Pól Ó Grádaigh <pol@...>:
>D'fhéach mé ar an liosta sin agus ní thuigim aon olc a bheith sna
cúrsaí
>sin, tchítear dom nach bhfuil ann ach caitheamh aimsire rud beag
>neamhchoitianta...
>
>Pól
Bhíos mórán den tuairim sin, a Phóil, tamall ó shin (nach raibh sna
cúrsaí
sin ach 'déirc an díomhaointis'), ach molaim duit anois a thuilleadh
taighde a dh.
mg
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Marion Gunn <mgunn@...>
Date: Thu, 4 Jul 2002 16:24:22 -0400
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From: Aidan Grey <grey@...>
Subject: Re: Conlang (bhí: Common Gaelic (Be/arla))
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Dr. Gunn agus eile,
Gabh mo leithscéal ar mo ghramadach Gaeilge - tá mé ag foghlaim go
fóill.
Ní raibh mo phost gan iarraidh. Dúradh cúiseamh no dhá, agus
d'fhreagair mé.
B'fhéidir bhí an chéad post príobháideach, ach bhí na poist seo os
comhair an
tsaoil. Tá na rudaí seo a dhéanamh ar Conlangers comhchosúil le deir go
bhfuil
na Geil sceimhlitheora do Osama - tá sé gan bhúnus agus mícheart, agus
is cleas
gránna é.
Tá cabhair le foghlaim a cheilt ar duine comhchosúil le deir "Ná múin
matamaitic dóibh - déanfaidh siad droch-eitleoga faoi réim gnóthaí
polaitíochta
agus le cultúr a mhill!"
Ní raibh mo phost 'propaganda' fosta ach míníu an fhírinne in aghaidh
ainbhios.
Is déanta é anois.
Aidan