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Re: THEORY: Allophones

From:Carlos Thompson <chlewey@...>
Date:Tuesday, April 6, 1999, 2:36
FFlores wrote:

> Is there any natlang or conlang where an allophone > of a certain phoneme is also an allophone (maybe the > only one) of *another* phoneme? Do you think that's > likely or probable?
I would say that it is likely... but it depends, I suppose, on what do you call allophones. In Hangkerimce there are many "allophones" in the sense that the realizations of the same orthography will be the same, but I have not clear if those different realizations are considered as realization of the same sound by native speakers. For example, K, whose nominal value is unsapirated /k/ are sometimes realized, in soft positions, as /x/ which could be palatized before an I, this is the same sound as C (nominal value /C/, voiceless palatal fricative) after a syllabe final N (n=F3minal value /N/) when the N is in= a strong (stressed) position. About natlangs, I don't know if the swedes in this list would considered that the short <e> is an allophone that is similar to the short <a"> or if the short <e> is just a short <a">, where long <e> =3D /e:/, long <a">= =3D /E/, short <e> =3D short <a"> =3D /E/, short <e> before <r> =3D short= <a"> before <r> =3D /&/.
> > > In this particular case, I have a daughter of Drasel=E9q, > Curco, where /v/ has the allophones [v] and [w] (the > latter when syllable-final), and there's also /w/ as > a different phoneme. > > --Pablo Flores > > * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * * > Weiner's Law of Libraries: > There are no answers, only cross-references.
-- o_o =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D= =3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3Dw=3D=3D=3Dw=3D=3D=3D=3D####### Chlewey Thompin ## #### http://www.geocities.com/Paris/Rue/9028/ ## ## ## ------------------------------------------------##-## ## ### - =BFPor qu=E9 no? - No tiene sentido. - =BFQu=E9 sentido? El sentido no existe. - El sentido inverso. O el sentido norte. El sentido com=FAn, tal vez. O sin sentido, como aqu=ED. (-- Graeville 2)