Re: OT: Phonetics (IPA)

Andreas Johansson likis:

> Quoting Joe <joe@...>:
>
> > AFAIK, this is a pretty common confusion in languages with retroflexes.
> > However, I, as a native English speaker, would place dentals and
alveolars
> > together, and retroflexes seperately, whereas evidently you would place
> > retroflexes and alveolars together, and dentals seperately.
>
> I might point out that for me, whose native language distinguishes dentals
and
> retroflexes (regardless of whether we phonemize [t`] as /rt/ - it still
> contrasts with [t_d] /t/), alveolars sounds like dentals, not retroflexes.
>
>                                                        Andreas
Question for Andreas: What is your native language? I would still say that
if
you consider the manner in which alveolars, dentals and retroflexes are
pronounced, dentals are no doubt closer to alveolars.

But, if you consider the sounds that they produce, definitely, alveolars
sound closer to retroflexes than dentals.

The difference in opinion may be due to the fact that even if two languages
have alveolar t and d, both language may pronounce it differently.

Nikhil

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