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Re: OT: Phonetics (IPA)

From:Nikhil Sinha <nsinha_in@...>
Date:Saturday, July 12, 2003, 4:40
Yes, true, the numerous dipthongs in English become purer vowels in Indian
English.

Nikhil

Joe likis:


> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Nikhil Sinha" <nsinha_in@...> > To: <CONLANG@...> > Sent: Friday, July 11, 2003 6:52 PM > Subject: Re: Phonetics (IPA) > > > > Thanks to all of you who tried to answer my questions. Yes, I beleive I
do
> > pronounce the 'ch' and 'j' sounds as palatals. I was not aware of that. > It's > > so natural. But, when I try to copy the newsreaders of BBC and CNN, I do > get > > a 'tsh' and 'dzh' sound instead. I will try to correct my pronunciation. > > > > I was analysing the sound differences between English and Hindi. The > > retroflex sounds of Hindi are 'T' and 'D'. They are pretty close to the > > English t and d, which are alveolar. But the Hindi dental t and d are > > different from the English alveoars. The Hindi retroflex and English > > alveolars are so close, that even at the age of 15 I didn't know that
they
> > are pronounced differently. I only found that out five days ago, when I > was > > analysing my own speech. I then realised that even though I pronounce
the
> > Hin. retroflex and Eng. alveolars exactly alike, the way to pronounce
them
> > is completely different. > > AFAIK, this is a pretty common confusion in languages with retroflexes. > However, I, as a native English speaker, would place dentals and alveolars > together, and retroflexes seperately, whereas evidently you would place > retroflexes and alveolars together, and dentals seperately. > > > So except the 'ch' and 'j' my pronunciation is British. The differences > are: > > > > Firstly, I do not aspirate the t and d when they are at the beginning of > > words. I always pronounce t and d as unaspirate, no matter where it
occurs
> > in the word. > > > > And secondly, I pronounce vowels differently. My vowels are much more > 'pure' > > than the English or American ones. > > By which you mean what? Less dipthongs? So instead of [@u], you have [o]? > > > Nikhil > > >