Re: Senyecan Orth. & Phon .

Alt 0235 = ë.  That one works & it's the one I need.

Alt 0246 always bumps me back to the name/password sign-in page!!

I'm not computer literate enough to know why these idiosyncrasies
happen.  But many thanks for the help.

What is the ASCII 4-letter code for o/?  I'd rather use that than oe
if possible.

BTW, I'm trying to represent with oe the "ir" in bird.  My phonetics
dictionary uses that backwards epsilon followed by :, but on the site
where IPA symbols are sounded, that epsilon sounds nothing
like "ir."  Any suggestions?


--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Roger Mills <rfmilly@M...> wrote:
Charlie wrote (to Christian):

(re depiction of epenthetic schwa)
> In the original study I use an epsilon; easy to write, a tiny
> backward 3.  I had originally used e diaresis (as in Albanian), &
> would have used it here, but I can't make it!!!  I can make ä &
> ï &
> ü, but not the e or the o.  What is that all about?  I'm using
Alt
> with the 3-digit ASCII numbers.  Hmmmm, now that I think about it,
> maybe ï would be subject to less misunderstanding.
ï is sometimes hard to make out, depending on font.  ë is Alt
0235, ö
is
0246. (Your computer may differ, but it shouldn't :-(  I could be
wrong, but
every character from #0192 to 0255 should be available, and viewable
by all
or most of us.)
>
> <<BTW, what's wrong with not writing epenthetic schwas?
> You're under no obligation to present your language in
> a phonetic spelling.  In fact, many of us like obscure
> orthographies.  ;o)>>
>
> I guess the native speakers don't write it because they know when to
> insert it.  Rather like speakers of Hebrew not needing the vowel
> points because they know which vowels to use.  In any case, there is
> no grapheme for it.  I use one when transliterating as an aid to
> those
> who are not fluent in Senyecan.
Right. You and your "speakers" know which clusters are and aren't
permitted;
the casual reader may not. (There are epenthetic schwas in Kash too,
but the
phonotactics are much simpler, and I don't indicate them, except in
phonetic
transcription.)
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