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From:Lars Finsen <lars.finsen@...>
Date:Thursday, May 22, 2008, 22:36
I am tempted to reclassify the Urianian r-form verbs, which I have
called reflexive before. You can use it to form reflexive forms and
meanings. For example, the r-form of firde (carry) is used to mean
'behave.' The r-form of agit (see) means 'look, appear.' The r-form
of brigid (ask) means 'wonder.' In fact, I have noted brigrid as a
verb in its own right. Probably firurde should be one, too. In these
constructions, a transitive verb is turned into a new intransitive verb.

But there are other functions, too. Consider the difference between
'di ugem' - I talked to you, and 'ugrent' - we talked. Similar, but
not exactly. And then I find that r-verbs also can take an argument.
'Fazurent nidrant' - we watched out for enemies. However, nidrant is
a dative. So even if a new verb fazurid could be construed meaning
'watch out for something,' it doesn't work that way because then it
should have an accusative argument. Am I having an antipassive, or a
deponent, or what?

There are of course several other, more or less ancient, IE languages
having such r-forms. I found I needed them because I had so many
names in my big Urianian name collection with -r endings. For
example, today I analysed the name Galtir, which seems to be from
galt 'figure, image,' hence the verb galtid 'cut a (fine) figure' -
from *koldos 'something hewn.'

Incidentially the reason why I have so many names is that I liked to
simulate sporting events when I was a kid. One of the several weird
things I did when other kids were doing their homework. I just found
another old book a couple of days ago full of fresh names to analyse.
Among them Tirm Armoz, the shot-putter from Kerkoran, personal best
16.52 meters, and Arza Dindin, female javelin thrower from Derekia,
pb 53.36 (though this is with the old javelin used in the 70s, of


...P.s.: Today I used quoting the way I was taught in English class
at school, with inside punctuation. To me it looks really weird, and
I don't think I will use it again. But to you it looks fine, I guess?...

...P.p.s.: Will I be starting a quoting thread now?...