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Re: CPA - An ASCII-based phonetic alphabet

From:Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg.rhiemeier@...>
Date:Sunday, November 18, 2001, 23:29
Thank you all for the many replies on my post.  I expected to find some
in the list after my return from Berlin (which was the reason for my
absence from CONLANG); but I was overwhelmed by the amount of discussion
that followed.

Some people seem to like it, others less so; some pointed out things
I could have done better in their opinion.

Well, CPA certainly isn't "perfect"; it is not immutably final, either.

Christian Thalmann <cinga@...> made the following suggestion:

> 1) Use the asterisk for impl and ejec stops rather than the [`].
The problem with this is that the asterisk is already used as a prefixed modifier character and thus cannot be used as a suffixed diacritic. With your suggestions, sequences like [k*i] would be ambiguous: is it a glottalized [k], or a centralized [i]? One could, however, sacrifice one of the wild cards, or use something else like [\], instead of [`], though it would look more ugly.
> 2) Use the now free [`] symbol for retroflexion, as it is currently used > in SAMPA. > 3) Use the now free [.] symbol for the syllable break, as it is currently > used in SAMPA. > 4) Use the now free [-] symbol for linking (absence of a break). > 5) Use the now free [=] symbol for syllabic consonants, as it is currently > used in SAMPA.
Yes, these suggestions are well worth considering, whichever character is used for retroflex consonants. Especially the use of [.] for syllable break and [-] for linking greatly improves the system. I'll adopt these two in the next revision, as soon as I have settled on how to mark glottalization and retroflexion. There's nothing wrong with CPA agreeing with SAMPA in a number of things; indeed, it surely makes things easier. There are quite a number of symbols that are the same in both CPA and SAMPA anyway; the differences are mainly where SAMPA does something hideous.
> 6) Allow [V] as an alternate notation for ["E].
Yes, I have already realized that this would be a good thing, and it will certainly be in the next revision. Jörg.