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Finally delurking, and some info on Ciktal

From:Arnt Richard Johansen <arntrich@...>
Date:Thursday, October 18, 2001, 15:19
On Tue, 16 Oct 2001, Nik Taylor wrote:

> Arnt Richard Johansen wrote: > > Andi dosam eloske, ön ngimam elos. > > So, to write _dosam_ one writes do-so(rev)-ma(rev)?
That's right.
> Any reason why its > not do-sa-ma(rev)? That would seem more logical to me, as it would > minimize the necessity of using that diacritic, and it reflects the > syllabification better, as _dosam_ would be do-sam.
Well, it's an orthographical rule, and therefore doesn't have to make sense. :) The idea is that the writing system to a certain degree reflects morphological boundaries. "Dos" is the word root for "man", which must be written "do-so(rev)" when standing on its own. "-am" is a suffix which indicates the plural and the "animate" gender. Thus, the roots retain their basic syllable symbols ("arem") independent of its place in compounds. In fact, "dosam" could be written as "do-so-ma", completely without reversers, and this is actually what is most often done, where this doesn't lead to any misunderstandings.
> > I'd be happy to give you interlinears, but I'm not quite sure how to do > > it. Do anybody have any webpages that describe it, including such things > > as common abbreviations of case names? > > Interlinears are usually done just by showing what the morphemes are, > and giving a key to the abbreviations. There are a few common > abbreviations, like acc for accusative or pl for plural. [...]
Thank you very much! Hope you can understand this: Subj = subjunctive An = animate gender Imp = imperative All = allative Andi dosam eloske, ön ngimam elos. Andi dos-am e- los- ke, ön ngim- am e- los. Everyone be.3rdPl-subj-if, not human be.3rdPl-subj If everyone were men, there would be no people. Ön ökitan caavamëni! Ön ök- i- tan caava- më- ni! Not vomit - imp bed 1stSing.present all Don't puke in my bed! Teni Olko varë maselos? Teni Olko varë masel-os? What.all Olko 2nd.sing.gen give Who did Olko give yours to? By the way, thanks to taliesin and Nik Taylor for informing me that the Conlanger Code is in version 1.1. Here is my new and (slightly) improved Code: CLI/CS v1.1 lpv+ cN:R:S:H a++ y n19:1d B?+++ A E L++++ N2 Iv k-- ia:+ p+ s- m- o P---- S- Ciktal -- Best regards, Arnt Richard Johansen


Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>