Re: THEORY: genitive vs. construct case/izafe

Hello, Joerg, Henrik, Julia, and others.
--- In conlang@yahoogroups.com, Jörg Rhiemeier <joerg_rhiemeier@W...>
wrote:
> Hallo!
>
> Henrik Theiling wrote:
>
> > [snip]
> > Assume the whole phrase is in case X, then you get:
> >
> >     Modifier-GEN Modified-X  ==  Modifier-X Modified-CONSTR
> >
> > [snip]
>
> Exactly.  But more precisely, it is the construct _state_, because
> the modified noun can be, in languages with case systems such as
> Classical Arabic, of any case.
It seems to me that "This is a Job for Case-Stacking!"
Are "genitive phrases" the most typical place to find case-stacking
in languages that allow case-stacking?

> So, it is "Modifier Modified-CONSTR-X"
> with "X" being the case of the NP.  Classical Arabic also has a
> genitive case, so it is "Modified-CONSTR-X Modifier-GEN" (Arabic
> puts modifiers after the head).
?So in Arabic, "genitive phrases"
(those in which a noun modifies a noun e.g.) are "doubly marked",
both "head-marked" and "dependent-marked"?

Also, if the "CONSTR" qualifies as (can be properly called) a "case",
is the "Modified-CONSTR-X" an example of case-stacking?

> [snip]
Thanks for any answers.

Tom H.C. in MI

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