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CHAT: Day & month names (was: CHAT: Easter & the Saxon Calendar (was: Passover/Easter))

From:Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>
Date:Sunday, April 30, 2000, 20:51
At 6:43 pm -0400 29/4/00, Nik Taylor wrote:
>yl-ruil wrote: >> Old Icelandic replaced the god-names of the days of the week (Odhinn's day >> etc.) with things like Firstday, Seconday and so on. > >Interesting, so has Portuguese, for Monday-Friday. Sunday and Saturday >retain the terms _Domingo_ and _Sabado_, or something similar.
So did the Greeks from the very beginning - the days are (transliterated): Kyriake: (he:mera) = Dominical day, the of-the-Lord day (Sunday) Deutera (he:mera) = 2nd day (Tuesday) Trite: (he:mera) = 3rd Teterte: (he:mera) = 4th Pempte: (he:mera) = 5th Paraskeue: = Preparation (Friday - Preparation for the Sabbath) Sabbato(n) = Sabbath In the modern pronunciation: [kirja'ki], [Def'tera], ['triti], [te'tarti], ['pempti], [paraske'vi], ['savato]. The early Quakers also objected to the names of pagan deities being enshrined in the weekdays and in some of the month names, and simply numbered them. But this didn't catch on. Now to return to conlanging... :-) Dutton in his Speedwords does the same; thus the weekdays are from Sunday through Saturday: D1, D2, D3, D4, D5, D6, D7. They are pronounced: ['de:Nu:], ['de:NdOs], ['de:Ntri:], ['de:Nkwar], ['dE:Nfun], ['de:NsEs], ['de:NsEp]. These words are not bimorphemic, however, but trimorphemic; thus, e.g. [de:NdOs] <-- [de:] "day' + [N] (morpheme showing the the first is being compounded with the second] + [dOs] "two". Similarly the months are from Jan. through Dec.: L1, L2, L3, L4, L5, L6, L7, L8, L9, L10, L11, L12. Pronounced: ['lu:N:u], ['lu:NdOs], ['lu:Ntri:], ['lu:Nkwar], ['lu:Nfun], ['lu:NsEs], ['lu:NsEp], ['lu:NOto:], ['lu:Nnajn], ['lu:Ntaj], ['lu:Staju:], [['lu:StajdOs] The month names from Jan. through October are trimorphemic (see day names above), but the last two are quadrumorphemic, e.g. ['lu:Staju:] <-- [lu:] + [S] (morpheme showing that the first is to be compounded with two others which follow) + [taj] + [u:]. The Speedwords rules for pronouncing compound words are: (a) if a bound morpheme is added, then it is added according to its own rules of pronunciation without any other "joining morpheme"; (b) if two free morphemes are to be compounded, then [IN] or [N] is inserted between the two ([IN] after a consonant, [N] after a vowel); (c) if three free morphemes are to be compounded, then insert [IS] or [S] between the first and second - no joining morpheme to be inserted between the second & third. [IS] is used after consonants and [S] after vowels. The "joining morphemes" ([IN]/[N], [IS]/[S]) are _never_ written - a bit like in Farsi. But I don't think it was a dislike of pagan names that led Dutton to adopt numbered names the week days & months, but rather for the same reason as the Chinese do this. Briefscript will also do the same as Speedwords & Chinese for the months. However, it will not do so for the weekdays since, as we have discussed before on this list, different communities have different numbering systems: the traditional JudaeoChristian mode of reckoning is like Duttons & ther Greeks, taking Sunday as the 1st Day and Saturday as the 7th. But the International Standardization Organization decided to make Monday the 1st day of the week, and this was, apparently, offically adopted by my country in 1971; the Chinese weekday names number the days thus, as do several other counties. Although the Arabic weekday names show numbering according to the traditional Jewish system, in several countries where Islam has spread one finds Friday named 'juma' or something similar, and the other days numbered from it, e.g. in Swahili: Ijumaa - Friday Jumamosi - Saturday (mosi = 1) Jumapili - Sunday (pili = 2) Jumatatu - Monday (tatu = 3) Jumanne - Tuesday (nne = 4) Jumatano - Wednesday (tano = 5) Alhamisi - Thursday <-- Arabic: /al xami:s/ "the fifth" I dare say there are also other numbering systems around. Since briefscript will not want to reflect a particular cultural viewpoint (or offend others), I shall not number the days of the week. I may do something similar to Japanese: nichiyo:bi (sun-day) - Sunday getsuyo:bi (moon-day) - Monday kayo:bi (fire-day) - Tuesday suiyo:bi (water-day) - Wednesday mokuyo:bi (wood-day) - Thursday kinyo:bi (metal-day) - Friday doyo:bi (earth-day) - Saturday Ray. ========================================= A mind which thinks at its own expense will always interfere with language. [J.G. Hamann 1760] =========================================