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Re: how can I tell a postposition from a case marker???

From:Matthew Turnbull <ave.jor@...>
Date:Sunday, November 16, 2008, 20:22
I don't have any word that would go there, but that did give me the idea of
putting the word into the vocative, I end up with
 *niiiaothindsao*, not *niiatho indsa*, so I suppose it must be a case
marker, thanks!

On Sun, Nov 16, 2008 at 9:50 AM, Jim Henry <jimhenry1973@...> wrote:

> On Thu, Nov 13, 2008 at 8:30 AM, Matthew Turnbull <ave.jor@...> > wrote: > > > So before recently, the scentence equivilant to "I walk towards a cat" > would > > be > > ::*vrotyomo indsa niiaoth* > > ::I.walk towards cat > > but for the last little while I've been saying > > ::*vrotyomo niiaothindsa* > > ::I.walk catwards > > but it only happens with verbs implying motion, like vrotyo, for a verb > that > > does not imply motion it's still a preposition. > > ::*moktaomo indsa kufath* > > ::I.sit near dog > > > > So my question is, since it behaves very similarly to the other case > markers > > like the instrumental, should I consider that for verbs of movement a new > > case has evolved, or that it has become a postposition, I really can't > tell. > > If it's had simply become a postposition, I would expect you could > find some situations where another word (an adjective, maybe?) > might go in between the noun and the "indsa" marker. If that never > happens, I would be more inclined to analyze it as having become > a case ending. > > -- > Jim Henry > http://www.pobox.com/~jimhenry/conlang/fluency-survey.html< > Conlang fluency survey -- there's still time to participate before > I analyze the results and write the article >