Re: Afrasian?
From: | Tim May <butsuri@...> |
Date: | Saturday, October 12, 2002, 10:44 |
Andreas Johansson writes:
> Tim May wrote:
> >Jan van Steenbergen writes:
> > > --- Andreas wrote:
> > >
> > > > If _Eurasica_ is eurocentric, is _Eurasia_ then asiatocentric?
> > >
> > > No. In "Eurasia" the two components are more or less equally
> > > represented.
> >
> >Let's not forget, also, that Europe is a lot smaller. If we were only
> >now to name the continents for the first time, no-one would create
> >Asia and Europe.
>
> For the very good reason that Asia and Europe aren't continents.
>
From any objective geographical viewpoint, I agree with you, but that
is how they are defined, at least in English. The terms come from a
time when Europeans had no real idea of the scale of Asia and Africa.
> >You might give Europe a name, as a cultural
> >grouping, but only if you divided Asia up into several spheres of
> >influence, and you probably wouldn't consider them to be
> >continents. I'm not denying Europe deserves a mention: it's
> >historically important; these terms are basically for use in European
> >languages; and the alternative term for Eurasia would be "Asia", which
> >would clearly invite confusion. But giving it one less letter than
> >Asia and the initial position is hardly unfair on Europe.
>
> See my other mail for why don't think "Eurasia" don't equally represent Asia
> and Europe. I note again that I don't think this kind of "fairness" is very
> important.
>
Well, as it's been pointed out, Asia's a very short word. "-ia" is a
fairly generic ending, too - one other continent and various countries
and regions end with it. Even more end in "-a". Therefore, it would
be possible to analyse "Eurasia" as Eur-as-ia or Eur-asi-a. Given the
relative uniqueness of the syllable "eur" and the fact that it
occupies word-initial-position, I think Europe's well represented
(plus, as I said before, it doesn't necessarily deserve equal
representation).
> Speaking of use in European languages, I'd guess that Western behaviour the
> last few centries has instilled a concept of "Europe" in most non-European
> minds. To what extent has Asiatic cultures acquired a concept of "Asia"?
>
Well, in recent years certain Asian politicians have spoken nebulously
of "Asian values", often offered as a reason for not being more
democratic. I doubt this represents anything real, though.