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Re: Speedwords hare (was: Some new Brithenig words? Narbonosc

From:The Gray Wizard <dbell@...>
Date:Wednesday, May 30, 2001, 11:21
> From: Andreas Johansson > > The Gray Wizard wrote > > > From: BP Jonsson > > > > > > At 06:39 2001-05-27 -0400, The Gray Wizard wrote: > > > > > > >Benefit to whom? In what way would changing their language to > > > "make it more > > > >like other languages" benefit Germans? What might motivate them to > >make > > > >such a change on this basis? > > > > > > It is certainly not immediately clear to schoolchildren which > words are > > > nouns. I'm sure a lot of class time could be used for more > > > valuable learning. > > > >I don't know. Given the other complexities of German nouns > (gender, case, > >number), I can't imagine that capitalization rules score very > high in terms > >of learning difficulties. I can't remember any significant class time > >being > >spent on it when I studied German as an undergrad. > > But you're not a native speaker, are you? To a native speaker (given that > his/her dialect isn't divergent from High German), the cases and genders > come pretty naturally. Same with the somewhat impredictable plurals. The > noun capitalization rules, on the other hand, have no real counterpart in > spoken language, and thus have to be learnt actively by even native > speakers.
No, but my wife is. A native speaker, that is. I'll poll her on this issue as soon as she wakes up. ;-)
> PS Obviously, the difference between higher and lower case is strictly a > feature of written language. If ease of learning were our sole > motive, we'd > be busy reforming capital letters out of existence.
This is probably my artlang bias leaking through here. I view the capitalization rules of German as an aesthetic and distinguishing features of the language. My response about "benefit to whom?" was, I am sure, colored by this. If Germans aren't clamoring for change here (are they?) then why change such a distinguishing feature. Of course, your more practical arguments are, well, more practical. Thank heavens we artlangers aren't hamstrung by such practicalities. :-) Incidentally, amman iar has no capital case. I can no longer remember whether it is because its native script has no capitals or whether somewhere along the line I decided it wouldn't have capitals and so created none for its script. I suspect the former, but memory fails me here. Stay curious, David David E. Bell The Gray Wizard Wisdom begins in wonder.


claudio <claudio.soboll@...>concerning: the german capitalization of nouns.
Raymond Brown <ray.brown@...>Upper & lower case (was: Speedwords hare etc