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Re: Beating the Dutch

From:John Cowan <jcowan@...>
Date:Saturday, April 27, 2002, 3:15
Nik Taylor scripsit:

> Actually, it's a survival from before Germany was united. "Dutch" was > used for all the Low German states, including modern-day Netherlands and > what is now northern Germany. "German" was used for the High German > states, and so when Germany became a nation, the term "German" was > attached to the new nation, and "Dutch" came to be restricted to the > Netherlands.
I think that "German" wasn't commonly used before the unification at all. "High Dutch" meant "High German" in the 17th century: King Charles II said he talked "High Dutch" to his horse (and French to his mistress). And I myself have seen a document in Dutch of the same period in a museum -- a "Wanted" poster -- which says that the criminal speaks "both high and low Dutch", which I take to mean "speaks both Dutch and German". Furthermore, the Pennsylvania Dutch are not only German, they are mostly Swabians -- definitely in the High German area. -- John Cowan <jcowan@...> http://www.reutershealth.com I amar prestar aen, han mathon ne nen, http://www.ccil.org/~cowan han mathon ne chae, a han noston ne 'wilith. --Galadriel, _LOTR:FOTR_

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Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
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