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Re: Beating the Dutch

From:Jan van Steenbergen <ijzeren_jan@...>
Date:Friday, April 26, 2002, 11:00
 --- John Cowan wrote:

> I also meant, but forgot, to praise Andreas (I think it was) for > introducing the word "Dutchistan" to our vocabulary. It is so perfectly > inelegant as to be quite elegant in its multicultural way.
Agreed. Perhaps I will borrow it once, especially when a rightist, populist, bald-headed freak might become prime minister.
> Is there any language but English in which "Dutch" survives as the > ethnonym/language name?
Not as such. But the root (originally from PIE *teut- "people"), exists in several variations: for German ("Duits" in Dutch, "Deutsch" in German, "Tysk" in Danish), for Dutch (but only in English), and last but not least, for the Teutonic knights. There is also the term "Diets", a rather vague concept, that sort of promotes the merger of the Dutch and the Flemish into one people. It has a certain political load in it, and is popular only in ultra-nationalist circles, chiefly in Belgium. I'm afraid this is were the English got the term "Dutch" for something that should have been called "Netherlanders" or "Hollanders" instead. Jan ===== "You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So, now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe." --- J. Michael Straczynski __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com

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