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Re: average syllables per word?

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Wednesday, June 30, 1999, 14:06
At 10:30 30/06/99 -0300, you wrote:
>Christophe Grandsire <Christophe.Grandsire@...> wrote: >> >> Well, everything is on my webpage (can you learn French?), but
here are
> >Very funny. :-X > >> some examples. In fact, the basic role of 'n' is to make a root from a >> suffix. This root can generally be translated as a pronoun (or pronominal >> adjective, as adjective is a case of the noun (it's called >> 'complementative'). I call those new roots 'grammatical words'. >> >> With -ek, which is a question suffix (like the 'ka' particle in
Japanese),
>> I can make 'n-ek': what? With the declination suffixes, I can make other >> question pronouns: >> n-ek-ev (at what?): where (are you)? when? >> n-ek-av (because of what?): why? >> etc... >> With the indefinite suffixes, you make indefinite pronouns: >> n-ab: something >> n-oz: this, that (yes, I know that's not indefinite, but -oz is put in the >> same list as indefinite suffixes. Not my fault) >> n-eg: everything >> n-ab-ab: a few, a little >> n-ek-ab: how much? how many? > >So <n-> is a "general" noun root? I mean, if you take the word for >"house" and add <-ab> it means "some house", <-oz> "this house", >etc., right? And <n-> fills the noun slot... Very, very interesting. >
Exactly!
>> With the absolutive personal suffixes, you make possessive
pronouns:
>> n-in: mine >> n-esh: yours >> etc... >> With the ergative suffixes, you make personal pronouns: >> n-ef: I, me >> n-ash: you >> etc... > >This is curious. Do you have an explanation for this? >Aren't there any free pronouns apart from these? >
No other free pronouns. I don't have any good explanation for this. But that's not weirder than the existence of an ergative genitive and an absolutive genitive!
>/snipped redundancy pronouns -- niiice!/ > >> >(Speaking of consonant clusters... my favorite Georgian word >> >is _vprtskvni_ 'I am peeling it', which is supposed to be >> >one syllable. I don't know which part is 'peel', but I'm quite >> >sure it's not the vowel.) >> > >> How is it supposed to be pronounced? With a lot of schwas or with a >> consonnant cluster of 8 consonnants? > >My grammar says "one syllable per vowel". So it *is* a consonant cluster >(v-p-r-ts-k-v-n, seven consonants, since /ts/ is affricate). And it also >says "almost no assimilation"! Wow. >
I agree: wow! A consonnant cluster with 3 stops, one affricate, two fricatives, a nasal and something else (what is 'r'? a trill, a flap, a fricative?) and where unvoiced and voiced consonnants are mixed! I can pronounce it (with much attention) but I'm sure I wouldn't recognize it if I heard it!
> >--Pablo Flores > >
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