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Re: The Language Code (take 4)

From:And Rosta <a.rosta@...>
Date:Saturday, June 14, 2003, 13:43
Dirk:
> e logical
typo: should be 'engineered'(!)
> English: Tn Pt*p++24,9(c)v(c) Wntar-- Mi++f+dt2a3c2n2 Sf++bsvoargn > Lc++d+1000000+
To get English down to 9 vowels requires a degree of ruthless parsimony that would be highly controversial. At a purely descriptive level (i.e. in the Code's spirit of providing a flavour of the language rather than an analysis of it), I would say English has 19-22 vowels (for my accent; 19 definites + 3 marginals). Student textbooks and modern British dictionaries would use 20. That figure of c.20 better reflects the typological eccentricity of the English vowel system & the fact that it is responsible for most dialectal variation. I know you mean it only as a casual example of the use of the code, but it illustrates one of the problems of typological comparison -- how surfacey are the descriptions of each language? (Too surfacey, and differences get overstated; not surfacey enough, and differences get understated.) --And. [to preempt someone asking what the vowels are, here they are: I e & V Q U i: u: A: O: aI OI eI aU @U I@ e@ 3: the 3 marginals: U@ i &:

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Dirk Elzinga <dirk_elzinga@...>
BP Jonsson <bpj@...>English vowels (w@z: Re: The Language Code (take 4)