Re: YAEPT: How you pronunce foreign place names

Quoting caeruleancentaur <caeruleancentaur@...>:

> Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote:
>
> >Quoting caeruleancentaur <caeruleancentaur@...>:
> >
> > Sometimes that final -gne in French is rendered as a simple /n/ as
> > in /S{m"pen/.
>
> >What phoneme are you indicating as /e/? If the good ol' "long a"
> (as >in SANE), surely the offglide relates to the french palatal.
> >If "short e" (RED), your pronunciation may be somewhat unusual -
> the >AHD has it as /S&m.pejn/, which also is the pronunciation I've
> heard >and picked up.
>
> Yes, you are right. I forgot about the offglide.  However, I don't
> understand how the offglide relates to the palatal nasal.
It was mentioned earlier in this thread that Fr /buloJ/ is sometimes anglicized
as /bulojn/. Fr /Sa~paJ/ -> En /S&mpejn/ would seem an example of the same
anglicization of French "-gne" as patalal offglide + /n/.

                                    Andreas