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Re: YAEPT: How you pronunce foreign place names

From:Andreas Johansson <andjo@...>
Date:Monday, January 29, 2007, 11:56
Quoting caeruleancentaur <caeruleancentaur@...>:

> Andreas Johansson <andjo@...> wrote: > > >Quoting caeruleancentaur <caeruleancentaur@...>: > > > > Sometimes that final -gne in French is rendered as a simple /n/ as > > in /S{m"pen/. > > >What phoneme are you indicating as /e/? If the good ol' "long a" > (as >in SANE), surely the offglide relates to the french palatal. > >If "short e" (RED), your pronunciation may be somewhat unusual - > the >AHD has it as /S&m.pejn/, which also is the pronunciation I've > heard >and picked up. > > Yes, you are right. I forgot about the offglide. However, I don't > understand how the offglide relates to the palatal nasal.
It was mentioned earlier in this thread that Fr /buloJ/ is sometimes anglicized as /bulojn/. Fr /Sa~paJ/ -> En /S&mpejn/ would seem an example of the same anglicization of French "-gne" as patalal offglide + /n/. Andreas