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CHAT: Lojban si (was RE: Pronouncing Tokana (was RE: Importance of stress))

Date:Friday, February 4, 2000, 23:11
> -----Original Message----- > From: Constructed Languages List [mailto:CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU]On > Behalf Of And Rosta > Sent: Friday, February 4, 2000 2:16 PM > To: CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU > Subject: Re: Pronouncing Tokana (was RE: Importance of stress) > > > Christophe (GkhisdofGghasq igh): > > I mean, when you hear a foreigner speaking English, do you > sometimes hear a > > voiced stop at the beginning of a word which was in fact pronounced > > voiceless non-aspirated? > > No. Nor Italian. It can't just be context helping out, because /I/ v /i:/, > /&/ v /V/, /r/ v /l/ (Japanese speakers) do sometimes confuse me in the > mouths of foreigners. However, when Nick Nicholas spoke Lojban to me, > I heard his /p/ /t/ /k/ as /b/ /d/ /g/. Apparently he was pronouncing > them Greekly, to be in accordance with Lojban's specification of the > /p/ v /b/ contrast as one exclusively of voicing. (It was incredibly > stressful hearing Nick's Lojban. He kept on saying "si si si" & I thought > for some reason he was shifting into Italian ("yes yes yes"), and only > after a long while did it dawn on me that "si si si" was Lojban -- "si" > means "delete the previous word".) > > --Aan dRosyd
Does "the previous word" include a previous instance of <si>? :D Eric Christopherson / *Aiworegs Ghristobhorosyo suHnus