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Re: Is conlang a generator of conlangers? or a sustainer? (was: Oops!)

From:Christophe Grandsire <christophe.grandsire@...>
Date:Thursday, October 8, 1998, 4:01
At 00:34 08/10/98 -0400, you wrote:
>So, Christophe, it was studying a foreign language (and a dead one at that >with a complicated grammar) that gave you the idea to create your own? >This brings up another very rich question (I said this would be my last, >but oops I lied)... and that is: are almost all of us conlangers because >we caught the virus independently, or are there a growing number of >conlangers who have been inspired to create because they joined the list? >Now this would add fuel to my idea that an electronic network has not only >made an excellent forum for us, but is actually generating a new hobby. > >My other question: how much was Tolkien an influence on your decision to >invent a language? I'm made curious by your story, Christophe, since it >mirrors my own (Spanish being the instigation). I only learned about >Tolkien's books years after I had begun writing down early T. and >starting a grammar. This was my reaction: stunned disbelief, joy, and >sullen resentment. How could he do this to me? How could he not only >create a language that was far more complex and beautiful than mine, but >also publish it and become famous? With a gorgeous script to boot? I was >fourteen. Tolkien then sustained me and determined me, but he didn't give >me the idea. Other folks have the same experience? Sorry if I'm >generating just another FAQ. >
In fact, when I read The Lord of the Rings, I had been creating languages for already two years at least (in fact, I don't remember well. I think I was 12 (or 13, or 14) when I first tried to create a language (really in Latin class, when it was toooooo much boring -I'm kidding, I liked very much Latin class-) and I read Tolkien's book when I was 16. But is it because I read a French translation or because I was stupid, I didn't realize that he had really invented languages. I think I learned it when I spoke of it with a friend of mine, only one year later. But I think it affected me as you, Sally, it determined me to carry on trying to create languages, not to create one.
>Sally > > >On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, Christophe Grandsire wrote: > >> Oops! I forgot to add that I studied Latin for 7 years at school, >> and I learned a little bit of Ancient and Modern Greek by myself. >> >> It's important because I remember that I had my first idea of >> creating a conlang in Latin class (what I created then was just a superset >> of Latin, but it was just the beginning). I don't know why it's in Latin >> class that I caught the virus, but I never recovered! >> >> Christophe Grandsire >> |Sela Jemufan Atlinan C.G. >> >> homepage: http://www.bde.espci.fr/homepage/Christophe.Grandsire/index.html >> > >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ >Sally Caves >scaves@frontiernet.net >http://www.frontiernet.net/~scaves/teonaht.html > >Rin euab ouarjo vopy vytssema tohda uo zef: >ar al aippara brottwav; ad kemban aril yllefo >brotwav fenom; vybbrysan brotwav an; he ad >edirmerem brotwav kronom. > >"A cat and a man are not all that different. >Both are on my bed; both lay their head on their >arm; both have mustaches; both purr when they >sleep." >++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ > >
Christophe Grandsire |Sela Jemufan Atlinan C.G. homepage: http://www.bde.espci.fr/homepage/Christophe.Grandsire/index.html