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Re: "Kauderwelsch" (was: LUNATIC SURVEY: 2005)

From:Andreas Neumann <gracchus@...>
Date:Monday, February 28, 2005, 0:05
Sally wrote:

> I was intrigued by this, too, Andreas. My copy of Kluge's Etymological > German Dictionary says that Kauderwelsch, "jargon," was first used in > early > modern German, and that "kauder" comes from a verb of unattested origins: > kaudern, "to talk unintelligibly"--hence "strange, unintelligible, foreign > tongue." So the meaning might actually have meant in an earlier century > "non-German," in much the same way that "barbarous" meant "non-Greek." > The > second element in the compound is welsch: "foreign and outlandish" (of > course; the OE cognate was wealh, weallas, "foreign, foreigners," i.e., > the > Welsh.) Old High German was "walhisc," MHG: "walch"--these words > according > to Kluge were variously applied to the Romance languages and peoples. So > Kauderwelsch may mean "gibberish" now, but it may have meant "weird > foreign > language" in previous eras. Do you think the title of the series is a > reference to that older meaning? > Sally
Yes, I think your dictionary is right. Kauderwelsch has two meanings. It expresses a foreign language you don't understand. On the other hand Kauderwelsch also means to talk in a strange way (without reference to a language). I think this expression is used for these books, because they deal with a lot of foreign and exotic languages which can be called "Kauderwelsch". Cu, Andreas -- DSL Komplett von GMX +++ Supergünstig und stressfrei einsteigen! AKTION "Kein Einrichtungspreis" nutzen: