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Re: erg/abs; verbs.

From:Nik Taylor <fortytwo@...>
Date:Monday, March 13, 2000, 1:01
Mangiat wrote:
> Is in these tounges the verbal system generally passive? If I have verbal > personal endings, will they agree with the absolutive? Is there in these > languages a difference of voice as in Indoeuropean active/middle-passive?
It depends on the language. In some, nouns are marked absolutive/ergative, while everything else (including agreement) is nom/acc. In others, the agreement is with the absolutive. In those cases, there's usually an anti-passive that turns the ergative into an absolutive, analogous to the function of passive. It's thus used when there's no object mentioned (John is writing) or when the focus is on John for whatever reason.
> 3- use a trigger marker on verb's object to make it the subject of a passive > statement: > Eat I apple > verb+1s apple+ACC > I eat an aplle > becomes: > Eat I apple > verb+1s apple+ACC+*TRIGGER* > An apple is eaten by me
It seems that it would be better to call that focusing, rather than "passive". Passive is a function of a verb.
> 4- Future: I will eat an apple, I'm going to eat an apple, > I'm eating an apple
"I'm eating"? Why would that be combined with future? -- "If the stars should appear one night in a thousand years, how would men believe and adore, and preserve for many generations the remembrance of the city of God!" - Ralph Waldo Emerson ICQ: 18656696 AIM Screen-Name: NikTailor