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Re: erg/abs; verbs.

From:Mangiat <mangiat@...>
Date:Tuesday, March 14, 2000, 6:46
Persson wrote:
> One of the uses of passive is in elliptical sentences such as: > 'I shot the klingon guards and fell to the floor.' > > which is an abbreviation of : > 'I shot the klingon guards and I fell to the floor.' > > If I would want to say : > 'I shot the klingon guards and the klingon guards fell to the floor' > in the same way I can use passive: > 'The klingon guards were shot by me and fell to the floor' > > Now, would Ate-he apple and disappeared > (2s) (acc,trigger) (2s) > > still mean 'I ate an apple and disappeared' > or 'The apple was eaten by me and disappeared'?
Mh, that's a problem! I didn't think about it! I could use relative prefixes to join two sentences and determinate the new subject: this could be a solution not to be ambiguous, but it seems too artificial: Ate-3s apple-acc-trg and determinator1(what before was the subject)-disappeared-3s = the apple was eaten by him and he (=the man) disappeared Ate-3s apple-acc-trg and determinator1(what before was the object)-disappeared-3s = the apple was eaten by him and it (=the apple) disappeared Or I could introduce grammatical gender to use it (also) this way: Ate-3s-male apple-acc-trg and disappeared-3s-male = the apple was eaten by him and he (=the man) disappeared Ate-3s-male apple-acc-trg and disappeared-3s-fruit = the apple was eaten by him and it (=the apple) disappeared where _male_ and _fruit_ are two genders -Bantu languages have half a dozen genders: I'll make up my _fruit_ gender! :) Luca Mangiat email: mangiat@tin.it