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Re: Workin' on some stuff.

From:Barry Garcia <barry_garcia@...>
Date:Wednesday, August 23, 2000, 22:15
CONLANG@LISTSERV.BROWN.EDU writes:
> >Then I decided to go back to the ancestor--I hadn't known about *that* >method of language-generation when I started writing the thing--and it >screwed up all my verb conjugations. Thanks to people on this list, >though, I ran a bunch of Aragis verbs through Mark Rosenfeld's sounds >program and managed to massage everything into two conjugation classes, >plus a bunch of interestingly weird irregularities.
Interesting. I'm not sure if i'm going to build up a culture around this conlnag or not (still working on Saalangal. This one may just remain as one for me to play around with, or not. Perhaps I can situate them in another part of the world? :))
> > >BTW, is there a rule-of-thumb figure for how much of a language could be >irregular? I want it to be naturalistic but not a total pain in the butt >to learn. As I figure out patterns some of the "irregulars" may actually >turn out to be special cases, but there are a few too many in a run of 20 >verb/nouns/adjectives for my liking.
I'd like some irregularities as well. As it is, ALL basic nouns have the same pattern, CaCaCi - RTM - ratami, GNS - ganasi, TsRL - tsarali, etc. Might make ease of learning simple though.
> > >> reflexive infinitive - CiCuCi - zimuri > >Neat. :-) I'm probably going to handle reflexives with a pronoun >construction.
Thanks! I liked the thought of a reflexive infinitive, and kind of added it at the spur of the moment. The conjugations for it re: past: zimuriam pres: zimuriul fut: zimuriad pst. prticip: zimuriez pres. prticip.: zimuriiv (two i's said separately) conditional: zimuriiya imperative: zimuriaz
> > > > >I like. :-) OC my verb system's sort of made-up (it uses evidentiality >and a lot of aspects, and no future), but hey. I use dynamic and static >mainly because I saw the description in the LCK and thought, Neat!
Thanks again! There's still a lot of stuff to do for it of course. I'd need to figure out how I want the grammar to be (probably just basic SOV word order, not sure).
> >I'm afraid most of the features I use are because I see 'em and think, >Neat! I wish I could be more methodical, but it's so fun....
No problem with that at all. I've done much the same with Saalangal (like using a trigger system because I thought it was cool).
> > >Another thing that I'm finding really fun about using tri-consonantal >roots is dividing semantic space in interesting cultural ways. > >basjaru (to meditate/dream) breaks down as: >basjaíru (dreamy, dreamlike) [adjective] >basra (enlightenment) [noun describing state] >basrena (dreamer or monk) [noun describing actor or profession] >besra (dream or koan) [noun describing tool] >(plus a bunch of infinitive-aspect forms I haven't bothered including) > >nabaru (to guard/be located at) >nabaíru (watchful) >nabara (vigilance) >nabrana (guard) >nebara (fort) > >sjabamu (to darken/be dark) >sjabaímu (dark) >sjabema (darkness) >sjabemana (night) >sjebama (sunset, though more properly I might translate it as "nightrise," > to parallel bajaru, to dawn/shine from sun, moon, star, natural sources) >
Neat-o :). I like it a lot. _________________________________________________________ This ain't a yes, this ain't a no, just do your thang, we'll see how it goes