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Re: CHAT: totalitarianism [was Re: Sexual terminology]

From:Thomas R. Wier <trwier@...>
Date:Wednesday, December 26, 2001, 6:28
Quoting Anton Sherwood <bronto@...>:

> "Thomas R. Wier" wrote: > > (I do not agree with you that there is a strict qualitative > > difference between very authoritarian and totalitarian; > > there is a continuum of oppression.) > > James Donald draws a distinction > between `authoritarians' who merely suppress opposition > and `totalitarians' who go further and compel vocal support.
That's really a false dichotomy, because *all* governments both suppress opposition and compel support. Take the United States. Several years ago, a secessionist group in Texas unilaterally declared Texas a sovereign republic independent of the US, and the US Federal Marshalls (along with the Texas Rangers) immediately set about suppressing this group. They were opposition, and they were quickly dispatched to the federal court system. The state governments also try to compel allegiance to the Federal system by requiring all students in the public school system to recite the Pledge of Allegiance at regular intervals, and take civics/government classes in highschool where they are instilled with pro-democracy, pro-capitalism, and pro-America values. It is only somewhat different in Europe, mutatis mutandis. If there is any distinction to be made at all, it is not one of kind, but one of degree, and where you draw the line is quite arbitrary. ===================================================================== Thomas Wier <trwier@...> <http://home.uchicago.edu/~trwier> "...koruphàs hetéras hetére:isi prosápto:n / Dept. of Linguistics mú:tho:n mè: teléein atrapòn mían..." University of Chicago "To join together diverse peaks of thought / 1010 E. 59th Street and not complete one road that has no turn" Chicago, IL 60637 Empedocles, _On Nature_, on speculative thinkers

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